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Can Original Slot-It Tyres be trued?


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Hi Deekus. I am not sure what tyres come with this car as some have C tyres and others demo. Standad tyres are usually OK but no match for N22/F22 0r 1207 which can be used on both 15.8/16.9 and 17.3 wheels. Former are probably OK if glued and trued but what do other people run? That to mind would be decider.

Your location and type of track also important. If in Aussie possibly MJK urethanes if allowed. All need to be glued and trued for best performance. Thunderslot are also very good.

Regards Charles Le Breton (charlesx)

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3 hours ago, Kevan said:
12 hours ago, DEEKUS said:

With a Tyre Truer

You can true any tyres.

How good are you on truing silicones?  I have a few pair that need attention.

they are Slotit S2 series tires and are glued onto rims already.... let me know where to send them and how much it will cost, please.

John Warren

Slotcars are my preferred reality

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4 hours ago, munter said:

How good are you on truing silicones?  I have a few pair that need attention.

they are Slotit S2 series tires and are glued onto rims already.... let me know where to send them and how much it will cost, please.

He didn't say it was easy. ;-)

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6 hours ago, munter said:

How good are you on truing silicones?  I have a few pair that need attention.

they are Slotit S2 series tires and are glued onto rims already.... let me know where to send them and how much it will cost, please.

If you have to ask...you probably can't afford it :lol:

Life is like a box of Slot cars...B)

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Hi all.

An expensive truer is not required but does make it easier and quicker. I have never had one. 

Just holding the car on track with emery paper and a little water works fine. Just take it slowly and do it a bit at a time so you do not waste rubber or whatever you use.

Regards Charles Le Breton (charlesx).

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Hi again Deekus.

A truer is fine for tyres on Ali wheels but unless it has extension for inline and sidewinder axles my suggestion works fine. Where a steadier method is required I set up on a hinged plate and use spacers to raise to required height where tyres just touch sanding block so wheels revolve easily on low voltage so tyres do not over heat. Heating also avoided by limiting each sanding session.

Hope this makes sense.

Regards Charles Le Breton (charlesx)

PS. Let me know if you need a picture.

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On 7/12/2023 at 7:28 PM, charlesx said:

An expensive truer is not required but does make it easier and quicker. I have never had one. 

Perfectly said!

A steady hand and/or a contraption to hold the car steady as described is a pretty OK way to do it, but a dedicated machine takes the load off the motor and gears of the car you'll be using them on, and often makes the process much easier and repeatable. If digital chips are part of the equation, it's not recommended to true the tires on the car, as the chip may be overdriven and fail.

If you have access to a 3d printer (your own, a friend's, at a library or maker space, etc) there are a few freely downloadable models for various tire truing machines. Even if you don't have access to a 3d printer, there's probably someone in your region or country that would be happy to print the parts at a reasonable cost for you. The hardware is usually available through various online shops, if not the local hardware store and/or RC hobby shop. This keeps the overall cost of a machine way down.

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To my mind, a truer is absolutely vital if you want a quality result or are pushing for fast lap times. I recently upgraded to an ILPE truer, and the results are night and day from what I was getting with my trusty old Area 3 or Tyre Razor - and I thought I was doing a good job with them. I can put a car on the track and know immediately that it's been trued on the ILPE. 

Podiums are for short people.

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No problem Mac but I choose to do it my way. Ultimate performance is great but not mandator for fun. 

Mr. Flippant - Have to admit I did partly burn out motor recently (first time) but only because I had tea and watched tele. and forgot. Tyres ran dry (water) and motor stalled for several hours. Still goes but not well. I have a cheap $20 home-made truer but only use for ali wheels. Have another $20 one for Scaly sidewinders but in-line done on hinged sanding board. I place spacers so tyres just contact and put heavy lead weight on car to hold firm. Works fine if I do not forget. Usually do at 3volts with water for 5mins at time. Do it that way for years. Does not stop me from holding my own most of time (assuming I bother to sand and/or glue at all).

Regards to whatever way you choose to do it. Charles Le Breton

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So, to be fair, you have a machine. :) It's simple, and DIY, but it's still a machine specifically made to true tires. The fundamental nature of such a machine is pretty simple... a device used to hold the wheels/tires a set distance from the abrasive so that high spots are taken away until the outer surface is concentric with the centerline of the axle. Your machine is probably about the same precision and effectiveness of any of the 3d printed machines, and much better than just holding a car, by hand, over some sandpaper on the track. What the expensive machines, such as the ILPE and similar, add is only an additional level of precision. Those machines are for the people chasing hundredths or thousandths, not tenths. A "toy" car that has had its tires trued on a simple/DIY/3DP machine will drop tenths, or even whole seconds depending on how bad they were to begin with. Plenty for me. :) 

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Well said Mr. Flippant.

Cannot comment on Mac's latest machine but I am retired (over 15years) so watch the $'s. I bought my brother a Hudy to do our 1/24th tyres (about $400NZ). He had one before which had worn out so it was my turn to purchase. We both race 1/24th a bit at National level. With 1/24th you have to do lots of tyres so a machine is really essential.

Despite what some people think I find my methods are at least as good but probably take longer. At 3 volts and slowly I can actually run my motor in and do my tyres at the same time. Usually run motor in for a while first if I remember. Over the last 15+ years I have not noticed any particular difference except at one time our club were all getting one person to do some tyres with machine (Slot-it N22's) until I realised I could do it myself. Done that for the last 5 years or more. Part of it was the process however rather than a superior machine. My driving is not what it used to be but I can still hold my own with all but the best (given similar conditions). At a recent 1/24th 6th hour Enduro I was still lapping within 100th of a second of fastest although in prior qualifying my brother set the fastest time 100th quicker still. My main interest is in keeping sport alive. 

Over this same 15+ year period I have also raced in dozens of proxies around the world including Euro, USA, Canadian and Aussie with generally good results as many people will be aware (including numerous podiums). All tyres sanded with my crude machines.

Everybody to their own but fun and enjoyment always first in my opinion. Regards Charles Le Breton (charlesx)

 

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