Gonz75 Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 Hi everyone, After some time without my track in place ive finaly got it back up and running, ive got it back to analogue to keep the cost down and im having trouble with what is now my 3rd pair of hand controls, they seem to wear out and basiclay end up just giving you full throttle or nothing, so there is no control, ive pulled them apart and the winding has worn through, can the winding be modified to a thicker wire or some sort of modification to get them to work and to handle the wear or is there another brand controler i can use? Also, you know how when you run two power packs to run the analogue at 16v, is there a way to get more power on the track when running Digital as i can only run the one power pack on the Digital power board? i find that my cars run slower when Digital and lack the poke and acceleration of the analogue track, apart from that its awsome!! cheers, Gonz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick1776 Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 Are you mechanically minded with some basic electrical skills? Buy a parma with 25 ohms and wire it up to the stereo jack plug. Hopefully someone will have done this and give you a wiring diagram. Quote cheers rick1776 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ember Posted October 6, 2009 Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 I went for Professor Motor controllers rather than the (slightly) cheaper Parma option. But either way will give you so much more feel over the Scaley ones. Rick, do the Parmas come for +ve or -ve wired track, or is that only the electronic ones? Cos it'll need to be a -ve to throw in with the standard Scaley wiring. Cheers Embs Quote Computers. They'll never catch on. Tiny Tyers Targa - The build saga continues - Aging wood - A recipe for staining wood - Don't take a fence - Step by step paling fence - An old shed for my new cars - Wooden garage under construction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gzminiz Posted October 6, 2009 Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 I went for Professor Motor controllers rather than the (slightly) cheaper Parma option. But either way will give you so much more feel over the Scaley ones. Rick, do the Parmas come for +ve or -ve wired track, or is that only the electronic ones? Cos it'll need to be a -ve to throw in with the standard Scaley wiring. Cheers Embs It is only the electronic ones. Resistors can resist in either direction, transistors can only, er, transist in on direction :-) Quote The Duke - 2nd Routed Track Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ember Posted October 6, 2009 Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 It is only the electronic ones. Resistors can resist in either direction, transistors can only, er, transist in on direction :-) Well yeah, but I wasn't sure if there was any other circuitry involved. Quote Computers. They'll never catch on. Tiny Tyers Targa - The build saga continues - Aging wood - A recipe for staining wood - Don't take a fence - Step by step paling fence - An old shed for my new cars - Wooden garage under construction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick1776 Posted October 6, 2009 Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 No resists resist in both directions Just need to know which wire connects to which part of the stereo jack. Just look at your burn out scaly controller and see which wire goes to which part of the jack. Just wire the same with the parma or the MRRC one looks OK or as ember has said you could go upmarket with an electronic controller. Quote cheers rick1776 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonz75 Posted October 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 Are you mechanically minded with some basic electrical skills? Buy a parma with 25 ohms and wire it up to the stereo jack plug. Hopefully someone will have done this and give you a wiring diagram. yeh i could do that, ill just cut the jacks off two of the old controlers...will it end badly if i wire it up wrong? ill have 3 wire wont i? Gonz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy_Cart Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 Gonz, The Scaley power supplies are pretty ordinary for digital, we have a third party power supply that is variable 9v to 16v (can turn down for younger kids & turn up when 6 cars are running hard) and 20 amps which works well. We have also added the PB Pro Simple H mod to the 6 car PB which improves the output stage and provides better power consistency. Cheers Phil Quote Cheers Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonz75 Posted October 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 (edited) Gonz, The Scaley power supplies are pretty ordinary for digital, we have a third party power supply that is variable 9v to 16v (can turn down for younger kids & turn up when 6 cars are running hard) and 20 amps which works well. We have also added the PB Pro Simple H mod to the 6 car PB which improves the output stage and provides better power consistency. Cheers Phil where can i get the 3dr party set up from? if i can get the digital to be as fast as the analogue ill go back to digital as we like the action with lane choice and the 4 car race option too, and the fact that the marshals can put ya car on any lane, going back to digital would solve the hand control issue as the digital controlers are much better imo!! Gonz. Edited October 7, 2009 by Gonz75 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy_Cart Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 Gonz, Not exactly sure what sort you would need for the 4 car PB as we run the 6 car with PB Pro SH mod however the following 2 links provide a lot of 3rd party power supply info. I suggest you reseach what a 4 car PB would need before committing to purchase. http://www.slotforum.com/forums/index.php?...c=11127&hl= http://www.slotforum.com/forums/index.php?...t=0&start=0 I got our power supply from Jaycar a couple of years ago but Dick Smith, Tandy etc should stock similar units, I just asked for a regulated variable voltage (up to 16v as that is all SSD chips are rated to) with 20 amps. I also took the scaley power base in and the guys at the shop wired the PS to PB. Our Power Supply cost about $140 from memory and did improve power before we upgraded to PB Pro SH (which by the way was the best thing to do to get SSD to work really well). The link below is a a picture and tech details of the power supply we have, not sure who supplies them in Oz now but there are other types around that will do the job. http://www.yankeeroo.com/store/product.php...=653&page=7 Hope this helps. Cheers Phil Quote Cheers Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy_Cart Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 Gonz, Here is a link to the most current thread on slotforum regarding power supplies. http://www.slotforum.com/forums/index.php?...=42924&st=0 Cheers Phil Quote Cheers Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangermouse Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 I want to connect some Scalextric hand controllers to my old routed track. I don't want to cut the plug (3.5mm stereo type plug) of the end so plan to add a socket to connect this to. What I after is a diagram of how to wire the socket up to except the plug. any help appreciated cheers DM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonz75 Posted October 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 OMG Phill, there is sooo much elecy talk in those links i cant keep up, and then it brings on the age old question of which is better analogue or digital? from what i can see it would be cheaper to stay analogue, we race on it already and were all happy with it, if i go digital then i gotta get the power upgrade and the chips for all my cars ive already got the 4 car PB and controlers and 2 LC's...ahhhhr, now i dont know what i want...i need to see a good powerful digital track at play, anyone in Perth got a tricked up digital track i could see in action? Gonz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul NZ Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 (edited) I want to connect some Scalextric hand controllers to my old routed track. I don't want to cut the plug (3.5mm stereo type plug) of the end so plan to add a socket to connect this to. What I after is a diagram of how to wire the socket up to except the plug. any help appreciated cheers DM DM, I have done this and it is just power in the centre pin, neg in to the RH pin (silver colour) and power out LH pin (brass colour), when I say RH/LH I refer to when you hold the socket end and the center pin is flat on the bottom. anyway the brass colour of the power out is easy to see. Gonz, Parma make a 25 Ohm controller with Scaley plug. As for Power supply to your 4 car Digital base, you will need to get a 15V PS, I got mine from a Melbourne shop that sells on ebay, search Power supply, 9-16V at 20amps. If you like digital (as I do) you need to have a close look at Scorpious, Rick is working on rthe scaley side of things now and this will mean that you will not need a PB at all, put the power straight to the rails, use the controllers and chips from scorpious and you will find no difference between digital and anologue. All up this will cost @ the same $ as PB Pro with S-H. IMO the best thing going in digital Edited October 8, 2009 by Paul NZ Quote Paul NZ - Scale with Detail! Narangba Club Local Gold Coast Raceway 09 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonz75 Posted October 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 thanks Paul, ill look into it now, my mates and i do like the digital and as you know when you can have 4 cars on the track we dont need to upset the kids to get a go hahaha...but we also like the extra poke the analogue gives the track so will be good to power the digital up, ill check out the ebay stuff aswell! Gonz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy_Cart Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 Gonz, I agree with Paul, I have tested Scorpius and its great and the final product will no doubt be the best however digital does add extra cost IMO I prefer the digital racing and over the last few years have built up a well powered system which suits our needs but it cost and we build slowly (plus was lucky enough to get hold of a lot of second hand car chips which helped). I was already to go Scorpius but the SSD compatibility originally considered can't be done now & I'm too heavily invested in SSD however if I ever route a track Scorpius would be the best option. As a cheaper option for digital you may want to try cleaning the rails and applying some INOX to the rail it improved our perfrmance greatly and eliminated the issue of digital needing a really clean track which would slow performance greatly. Check out this cleaning link from Post No 3, it may give your existing digital setup a bit of punch. http://www.slotforum.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=21447 I have been using INOX on the rails (clean & apply every 1 to 2 months) & blades now for over 12 months and its great, i wouldn't use to lubricate motors though. Cheers Phil Quote Cheers Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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