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Hi just following up on body question above the rules currently allow the LANCER BODIES (USA) - 163 1967 Ferrari 350P4 CanAm but not the SUNSET RACING SHELLS (AUS) Ferrari 350P4 CanAm.

 

As the SMN’s is being run at T’Birds who own Sunset Racing Shells it would be appropriate to allow this lexan body. If the lexan is the same shape and the same thickness etc., I would not see any performance advantage in running the local body, unless I am missing something.

 

Also given that we are trying to get some local Plafit racing happening it would give the locals an easy foray into the classes.

 

Cheers

 

Ray

As Parnelli Jones the Indy 500 winner once said "If you are not out of control you are not going fast enough!"

 

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Important information in regards to the slot.it class.

 

The release of the new model ,the Nissan R89C CAZ8A is not due for world release until the 10-14 February 2015.

 

Thanks to our sponsor armchair racer has had the go ahead from Italy,the new Nissan is now available for the month of January from your local shop now so we can have another great looking car available to race at the MCN.

 

In black and white the above Nissan model will be now added to the car list for this years 2015 MCN.

 

Regards Shane a

 

Team NSR

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Hey Ratracer / Ray,.. :)

Concerning your Query regarding the 2 x Ferrari 330P4 bodies.

 

I have often been somewhat Surprised that the List actually Includes the "Lancer" bodies, (which even Today, Are/Were beautiful), but Are Extremely difficult to find and probably realistically, inappropriate to Actually race as such,.. BUT,..the Lancer body and Sunset body are VERY Different Animals !!!

Theoretically Similar,.. BUT, unless there is a 'Scale' Sunset Ferrari that I am Unaware of, there is absolutely No Way you will get the Sunset one to fit over the 'Required' Class Wheel diameters !!

 

The Lancer 'Shell', is virtually 'Scale', as is/was the Similar Russkit shell and is therefore, Quite Narrow, whereas the Sunset is a Flattened 'Handling' style body suitable for Flexi-cars. It is Very Low and as mentioned above, cannot 'cope' with the Tyre diameters in place in that class, as there is simply Not Enough 'Body' on the sides to even 'enable' a bit of Overcutting, as the Sunset Mold 'Base', is extremely Close to the actual Body base 'Cut Line' !!

 

Electric Dreams used to 'List' a replacement Russkit 330P4 Coupe Body, but I cannot find it at this time and is Not Lexan (as far as I am aware, probably Butyrate).

TrueScale produce a Very Nice 'Reproduction' of a 330 Coupe Body.

As can be read in the 'link' below, it is from an 'Unreleased' Dynamic body but as I have Not ever 'Had one in my Hand'. Cannot confirm whether it is truly 'Suitable', (with regard to 'wheel arch' height etc) but it Would certainly appear to be so and would, I am sure typically, be Another beatifully 'Crisp' repro' from Victor.

Real Lancer body's Can, possibly still; be available on ePay, but Would NOT Be Cheap,..Especially This Particular body !!,..as it was and still IS a Very 'Popular' design !!,.. :), plus I don't think they were Lexan either, although they May have produced Some of those in Lexan, as they Were 'Popular' with the US 'Pro's at that time.

Betta produce a Very Nice Example, of which I Do happen to have one,..BUT,..whilst I have Not 'Measured' it to Check,..I am pretty Damn Sure,..it is Not Scale,.. as whilst easily Tall enough, it just seems Far Too Long and Wide, to be 'Correct'.

AB SlotSport, 'lists as 330 P4 'Spyder', which,..'Looks',... Theoretically 'Correct',..but Once again, without actually Having one to 'test fit', is difficult to know (once again), whether it Would 'Fit' correctly.

 

I'm pretty sure I Have seen a 330 P? Spyder on the ACE Hobbies web site, which looked nice, so there Must be one that Can 'Fit', just unsure whether the Same Holds True, for a Coupe.

 

Hope that Helps,.. :)

Hey I Might be Wrong,.. but the Truescale version Might be the easiest and best 'option', plus he Does Really LIKE Scale cars, so would be more than happy to help in regard to available 'Wheel Diameter' possibilities,..if asked.

See here; http://truescaleprod...ss2/?page_id=27

 

Obviously one would Hope that anyone who does Know Better,..should 'Chime-In', as it IS a Beautiful Looking series of Cars !!,.. :)

 

Cheers,

Stewart

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I'm pretty sure I Have seen a 330 P? Spyder on the ACE Hobbies web site, which looked nice, so there Must be one that Can 'Fit', just unsure whether the Same Holds True, for a Coupe.

 

Obviously one would Hope that anyone who does Know Better,..should 'Chime-In', as it IS a Beautiful Looking series of Cars !!,.. :)

 

Cheers,

Stewart

 

 

Stu,

I think Ray is talking about the Ferrari 350P4 CanAm Spyder not the 330P4.

 

You are correct, we have photos of these on our gallery page here : https://picasaweb.google.com/100400793531523576905/2015Regulations124HistoricS?noredirect=1#

The cars with numbers 1, 29 and 23 are all (ex.) Lancer Bodies.

These are manufactured in 0.010" Lexan from the original Lancer molds by REH Distributing and available through them as well as Eagle Distributing. NCP Hobbies also sells them.

There is actually a range of these ex. Lancer bodies available and even come with the original Lancer logo on their packaging. So they must have obtained the copywrite as well.

That is the reason that some of these Lexan bodies are still listed on the 2015 1/24 Historic's Class body list.

 

You are also correct that there is a significant difference between the Lancer 350P4 and the Sunset 350P4. Bob changed his mold to fit the body onto a 80mm wide Flexi Chassis

as in these long gone days true-to-scale racing was almost non-existing but Flexi-style speed racing certainly was.

 

Cheers

Werner

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After measuring up the Sunset Farrari 350 P4 can- am, i've added this to the body list as it's ok.

 

regards shane a

 

team nsr

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Thanks for the Extra Info' Werner :)

 

Mind you,.. I could Not find any 'references' to specifically Lancer bodies through Eagle or REH, although I Have also heard previously that REH has them,..but as 'noted', here is a Ferrari P4 CanAm Spyder, from NCP Hobbies, see here; http://www.ncphobbie...ot-cars/lan163/

 

cheers

:)

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Ray is referring to the 350 P4 Can-Am body, NOT the 330 P4. Sunset has the 350 P4 body mold and it IS 1/24 true scale, not the 80mm wide flexi body version so, there is no reason why it shouldn't be allowed in the 2015 MCN as it is a true Can-Am car.

 

Bob Crawford, the creator of Sunset Racing Shells would quite often make a 1/24 scale mold AND a Flexi Kar mold of the same or similar model.

 

Chris Osborne

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Hey Chris, thanks :), as I said,

BUT, unless there is a 'Scale' Sunset Ferrari that I am Unaware of
:)

 

It has been a Long time since I have seen That one from Sunset,..

I was just 'offering' 330 Alternatives, that I was aware of :)

 

Plus,.. in part, as you correctly mention, there is and always would seem to be some subtle confusion with those cars, which I guess was probably,..'typical' of the Ferrari factory at that time :)

It was I think, Luigi Chinetti that asked them to 'produce' a suitable CanAm car and Even though the 'aforementioned' CanAm Spyder, (the one with the Low body hugging Flat curved Air Intakes), was Based on a 330 series P3/4 'Base', it was, as you say, 'Officially' referred to as a 350 CanAm :)

 

I would also tend to agree, that If the Body Is Scale and has been prepared and presented within the 'Spirit' of That 'Class' (appearance/detail etc), then I can't see why it should Not be allowed :)

 

I was running a Sunset Elfin for some time,... which was somewhat of a 'challenge' !!,.. :)

Cheers

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Rule updates for body list in Mini Z.

 

The Sunset Ferrari 350 P4 Can-Am has been added after a measure. Post 56 i made above has been changed.

 

regards shane a

 

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Important information in regards to the slot.it class.

 

The release of the new model ,the Nissan R89C CAZ8A is not due for world release until the 10-14 February 2015.

 

Thanks to our sponsor armchair racer has had the go ahead from Italy,the new Nissan is now available for the month of January from your local shop now so we can have another great looking car available to race at the MCN.

 

In black and white the above Nissan model will be now added to the car list for this years 2015 MCN.

 

Regards Shane a

 

Team NSR

 

Hi All,

 

I'm assuming just like the SLOT IT Jaguar's you can remove the rear spats from the Nissan for this race?

 

Thanks,

 

Brooksy.

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Hi Shane,

Just a question regarding NSR classes. Is there a requirement to retain the original screws for the motor pod and body, or are they free choice of make?

I've double checked the rules and I can't see anything on this so thought I would make sure

Cheers Alan

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Hi Shane,

Just a question regarding NSR classes. Is there a requirement to retain the original screws for the motor pod and body, or are they free choice of make?

I've double checked the rules and I can't see anything on this so thought I would make sure

Cheers Alan

 

Happy birthday for the other day Alan.

 

Any screws are fine as there's know performance gain.

 

Regards shane a

 

Team NSR

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Guest jazzbell

Important information in regards to the slot.it class.

 

The release of the new model ,the Nissan R89C CAZ8A is not due for world release until the 10-14 February 2015.

 

Thanks to our sponsor armchair racer has had the go ahead from Italy,the new Nissan is now available for the month of January from your local shop now so we can have another great looking car available to race at the MCN.

 

In black and white the above Nissan model will be now added to the car list for this years 2015 MCN.

 

Regards Shane a

 

Team NSR

 

Hi All,

 

I'm assuming just like the SLOT IT Jaguar's you can remove the rear spats from the Nissan for this race?

 

Thanks,

 

Brooksy.

 

After having a look at the Nissan with the spats off I'm going to say that they must remain ON. The above post I said yes before seeing the car,changed it.

 

The car does not look right with the spats off. From the front of the rear wheel to the back of the car a big hole with know body work isn't there.(Know rear wheel arch) Car doesn't look right. I'll get a picture up shortly to show what I mean.

 

Regards shane a

Team NSR

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There is quite a difference to the appearance of the 89C, when it ran without the rear wheel spats:

 

http://www.racingsportscars.com/photo/1989/Donington-1989-09-03-023.jpg

 

Compared to the version slot.it is depicting:

 

http://www.racingsportscars.com/photo/1989/Le_Mans-1989-06-11-023.jpg

 

http://www.slot.it/immagini/Models_indice/GruppoC/Nissan_R89C/CA28a_Nissan_album/index.html#p=10

 

When you take the wheel spat off the slot.it model of the Nissan, it will look a bit 'wrong'........ probably a bit more 'wrong' than how the Jaguar looks 'spatless'....

 

BTW - the numbers 2 & 3 are pronounced 'Ni' & 'San' in Japanese, hence their often use of that number for their works entries....

Cheers,

 

Tony.

 

There's only two questions:

 

1. What direction do you go

2. What's the Lap Record?

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Can anybody advise me if there is a class that i can enter a newly acquired ScaleAuto "Spyker - C8 Spyder GT2R" unit in?

 

Forgive me if this question is simple / rudimentary but i am far from being fully conversant with vehicle classes etc..

 

Any advice that could be offered up would be greatly appreciated.

 

Thank You.

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Guest jazzbell

Can anybody advise me if there is a class that i can enter a newly acquired ScaleAuto "Spyker - C8 Spyder GT2R" unit in?

 

Forgive me if this question is simple / rudimentary but i am far from being fully conversant with vehicle classes etc..

 

Any advice that could be offered up would be greatly appreciated.

 

Thank You.

 

Sorry punisher,but there is know class you could race the Spyker in.

 

Regards shane a

 

Team NSR

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Hey guys 'n gals, with specific reference to some Earlier 'posts' concerning a Certain Ferrari Spyder and More 'specifically' the Lancer version of same, I happened to 'stumble' across this ;posting' on eBay;

http://www.ebay.com/...%3D311293907018

 

and perhaps Also interesting, this 'Gem'; http://www.ebay.com/...587621248&rt=nc

 

The McLaren M6 is a Great looking body !!

 

Anyway, was Just in case Anyone was / is interested :)

 

Although, it IS Always Nice to see a couple of 'Pristine',.. "Proper" slot car bodies,..of That Quality from the Past !! :)

 

Note: I will Not be offended if you wish to 'delete' the post,..I was simply surprised to find 2 x Prime examples 'suitable' to the Class, after Just chatting about them,..Especially 'Lancer' versions,.. :)

Cheers

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Hi all please see the following YouTube clip for a promo for the 2015 Scale Model Nationals

 

 

Regards

 

Ray

 

Team Thunderbird

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As Parnelli Jones the Indy 500 winner once said "If you are not out of control you are not going fast enough!"

 

2017 Plafit FLM Edurance Champion

Team Thunderbird

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Hi everyone,

 

Anyone attending the 2015 MCN you can PM the classes to me or contact the Tbird raceway.

 

Also not everyone is on this forum so you can also pass names and classes they'd be racing to me or the club also.

 

Numbers on attending this event now will help on the catering and other things that also are required to hold an event like this.

 

Also pit areas are right through raceway and the drag strip will be made into pit area for plenty of spots available to use.

 

Shane

 

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