miveson Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 I think you've left yourself wide open again to a bigger audience Quote Slot Car Photos V8 Tipping Competition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munter Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 Hi Chris,checkout Slotraceshop's website as they have Professor Motor controllers and are on special at the moment I checked there previously and it shows no stock. Quote John Warren Slotcars are my preferred reality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquakiwi Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 I'd recommend a Slot.It controller if I knew what all the knobs and buttons are for. I just use the trigger and the brakes knob on mine and it works fine. The cars go and they stop. Truth be known, I use it pretty much like a handle with an off/on switch and some wires connected to it. Ha ha I am of that school of driving, I use a Slot-It set up the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 I think you've left yourself wide open again to a bigger audience Only for the deviates out there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manimmal Posted June 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 (edited) Thanks again guys. I online ordered the PM from Thunderbird, $175 with free postage. Here's hoping it's a good fit. Hey Terry, when i was racing at Ged's weekly and testing my cars almost daily i had calluses on my index finger, my middle finger and the bottom of my thumb. The ones on my index finger and bottom of my thumb can still be felt, but aren't obvious anymore. No gloves for me though, i didn't think of that It sounds like I'll need to modify the trigger on the PM, or buy a glove... Edited June 9, 2016 by manimmal Quote My mum says I'm an excellent driver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wobble Posted June 9, 2016 Report Share Posted June 9, 2016 ninety nine ...a hundred ... change hands Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manimmal Posted June 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 Ok. My pm 2110 arrived at 830 this morning from my happy postie guy. I always appreciate prompt postage so a thanks to Chris at tbird for that. I was busy with some scenery on my track extension so couldn't test until early this afternoon. I'm glad i got to a point in my scenery that i couldn't continue on it as i spent 3 hours 'testing' my new toy. Ok, i love it! It makes some of my difficult ff050 cars drivable, my new slot.it r18 4wd birthday present leaves me wondering if i need glasses as its a blur, and i'm finding new places to crash. Being left handed i would prefer my dials on the other side, and with the parma i'm used to using two fingers on the trigger which i cannot do with the pm. First world problems... I'm having a great time err, playing with myself. I feel like i have a few hundred new slot cars to try out, and that can only be a good thing. It's callus time. Again guys thanks for your guidance. Chris Quote My mum says I'm an excellent driver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munter Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 Great to hear. I felt the same when I moved to the PM from a Parma turbo. Those difficult ff powered cars become soft and easy to control. Well done mate. Quote John Warren Slotcars are my preferred reality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussieslotter Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 (edited) There's a 35A Aussie made wireless controller with adjustable brakes available with a 7 day money back guarantee I believe 😊 Edited June 15, 2016 by aussieslotter Quote On chips, we have simply too many to create a video-log. As mentioned earlier in this thread, some were dead-on-arrival, some had no brakes, some had a range with the of about 30cm, some when hooked up to a light kit had only rear lights but not front lights (light kit and LEDs worked perfectly when tested with another chip) and so much more. www.scorpiuswireless.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalbfellp Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 The Aussie made controller is made for Left Handed drivers IMO! Quote Phil https://www.hobartminiaturecarclub.com/ Email Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussieslotter Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 (edited) Lol I'll have to show you one day it's so easy. It's set up so looking at driver screen is easy also, for right handers. Rick Edited June 16, 2016 by aussieslotter Quote On chips, we have simply too many to create a video-log. As mentioned earlier in this thread, some were dead-on-arrival, some had no brakes, some had a range with the of about 30cm, some when hooked up to a light kit had only rear lights but not front lights (light kit and LEDs worked perfectly when tested with another chip) and so much more. www.scorpiuswireless.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalbfellp Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 Rick No problems seeing the Screen that is all good. It's just that the sensitivity is hard to adjust on the run reaching around the controller. I have been testing a loaner for the last two months. Quote Phil https://www.hobartminiaturecarclub.com/ Email Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussieslotter Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 Try forefinger and thumb over not around. Do you have the dongle so you can design your own throttle curves? Quote On chips, we have simply too many to create a video-log. As mentioned earlier in this thread, some were dead-on-arrival, some had no brakes, some had a range with the of about 30cm, some when hooked up to a light kit had only rear lights but not front lights (light kit and LEDs worked perfectly when tested with another chip) and so much more. www.scorpiuswireless.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalbfellp Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 No Rick just been changing the curve using the screen, a bit slow but can be done at the track, took a bit of practice but OK once you get used to it. Quote Phil https://www.hobartminiaturecarclub.com/ Email Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRUNZ Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 in the 18 months that I have started in this hobby, i have used/tested for digital on plastic and/or analog on wood the following controllers: SCP1, SCP2, Scorpius, TruSpeed, NSR, DiFalco, and MBSlot. I think the controller is a personal choice and has to fit your way of driving. - For analog, I have settled on the MBSlot. True, it is an amazing controller. But as mentioned I also didn't like the fact that the knobs are on a separate box. So I got the ES-PB 02 that has all the controls on the handle. As I said the controller is very good but the manual is very very very very poor. I have not figured out what the STEP and SENSIBILITY knobs do. And it is not only me. The other 3 members of my club with the same controller also do not know how to take fully advantage of these knobs. - The Difalco is a very good controller and I really like the long trigger action. - The SCP1 and SCP2: I have tested them on analog and I really didn't click with it. But on digital plastic is an excellent controller. True, it has a lot of controls but it has also a freaking good manual that you should really read. It is a complex beast but once you read the manual you will understand how it works and can really make use of its full power. For the digital version (both oxigen and SSD), the main drawback is all the cables and wires. However, there is a new version, the SCP2.4, where this issue has been solved. - The scorpius controller: i have used this only on digital plastic. The main advantage is that its is truly wireless and has good battery life. However, I agree that the placement of the knobs and buttons (for us digital users buttons are important for changing lane and manual braking) is not the most intuitive. But if you really like it , I guess it is a matter of getting used to it. I didn't. The other main drawback is that what is called a sensitivity knob is actually a "curve selector". Basically, there are 10 curves that you can deploy on the controller and you can select which one to use with that knob. You can edit these curves on your PC and then deploy on the controller (provided you have the dongle). But AFAIK there is no way of saving the curves on your PC or retrieve them from the controller for further fine tuning. You can fine tune them on the controller itself but I find it a struggle. - The NSR i really didn't like it - The TruSpeed: I only tested the digital version and it is a lovely controller. But its main limitation is that it can be used only with the current APB for the SSD. I would like one day to try one of their top end analog models. Quote Cheers G "I am an expert at the top of my field when mowing the lawn". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussieslotter Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 I'll shoot some pics to show we did put a lot of thought into the ergonomics based on how the average analogue driver holds and uses a controller and why we made it just 3 knobs and 3 buttons. Stay tuned Rick Quote On chips, we have simply too many to create a video-log. As mentioned earlier in this thread, some were dead-on-arrival, some had no brakes, some had a range with the of about 30cm, some when hooked up to a light kit had only rear lights but not front lights (light kit and LEDs worked perfectly when tested with another chip) and so much more. www.scorpiuswireless.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadow_rusty Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 The PM trigger is much better when it is reshape do, I tend to round off most of my triggers for more comfort. You are better to select a controller to suit the voltage you race on, as buying a 12 to 18 and trying to use it on lower voltage does not give the same sensitivity range, talk to Espsix about this! I finally found my doco for the different models. 18v has a 4.3ohm resistor 15v has a 6.2ohm resistor OK, so, at minimum sensitivity, there is a 'significant' difference of 1.9ohm, or approx. 30% less sensitive for the 18v controller. Now, if you set the 25ohm sensitivity variable resistor to maximum, you get. 18v - 29.3ohm 15v - 31.2ohm This means that the 18v controller is still only 1.9ohms less at maximum sensitivity, or approx. 6% less sensitive. Now, I rarely use a 15v at full sensitivity, but I regularly use an 18v at minimum. Note: On the 'big' tracks that I run on, we usually generally use 11-14v, and on the smaller tracks, it's 10-13v. Quote Stolen from SlotsNZ Team ABC Team Leader (Ambitious, But Crap) Home Track Threads - Shadow's Semi-Permanent Layout & Another Rug Racer & Proud of It & Gymkhana Test Track Car Collection Thread - My Car Collection Charts / Diagrams - MJK Tyre Selector / Slot.it 4wd Gearing / PoliCar Rollout / Rollout Chart Generator / SCX 4wd Rollout / Track Wiring with Brake on Track Call Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalbfellp Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 That resistors are you referring to? The 12 resistors that control the base voltage of the transistor are around 18 ohms on the high voltage version and only 10 on the low voltage version. Quote Phil https://www.hobartminiaturecarclub.com/ Email Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadow_rusty Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 There must be more versions then. Both the 15 And the 18 versions I've worked on used the same resistor ladders. The only difference between them was the sensitivity circuit as per above. Yes, the the ladder was also different, then that would change things too. Quote Stolen from SlotsNZ Team ABC Team Leader (Ambitious, But Crap) Home Track Threads - Shadow's Semi-Permanent Layout & Another Rug Racer & Proud of It & Gymkhana Test Track Car Collection Thread - My Car Collection Charts / Diagrams - MJK Tyre Selector / Slot.it 4wd Gearing / PoliCar Rollout / Rollout Chart Generator / SCX 4wd Rollout / Track Wiring with Brake on Track Call Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalbfellp Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 (edited) The resistor bank has been different on the 4 high voltage ones I have had here, and on the one Brett had. So must be some different models around. The resistor bank seemed to be the only difference tha I could find. Edited June 18, 2016 by kalbfellp Quote Phil https://www.hobartminiaturecarclub.com/ Email Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadow_rusty Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 I've checked ~5 18v controllers, and it was only the 2w resistor next to the sensitivity pot that was different between them. That said, all 5 would of been ordered at the same time. The ~10 15v controllers I've worked on have been purchased as several different times through multiple suppliers. It may be worth noting that the 18v and 15v controllers that I've mostly worked on (and hence checked more closely), have all been the non adjustable ones. I have however, (as have others) fitted pots to some of them too, hence why I noticed the differences. And yes, I did find it quite odd that it was just the sensativity pot that was different. That said, it does just make the first step of the controller a different voltage, hence it works just fine. Quote Stolen from SlotsNZ Team ABC Team Leader (Ambitious, But Crap) Home Track Threads - Shadow's Semi-Permanent Layout & Another Rug Racer & Proud of It & Gymkhana Test Track Car Collection Thread - My Car Collection Charts / Diagrams - MJK Tyre Selector / Slot.it 4wd Gearing / PoliCar Rollout / Rollout Chart Generator / SCX 4wd Rollout / Track Wiring with Brake on Track Call Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalbfellp Posted June 18, 2016 Report Share Posted June 18, 2016 (edited) Must be different from adjustable to base controllers. Only low voltage ones I have checked gave been 2110 and one Negative polarity controller and the high voltage that I have converted have all been adjustable versions, mainly positive versions. The negative polarity adjustable one I did I am not sure about now as that was some years ago and the resistor bank was customized to suit the owner. Edited June 18, 2016 by kalbfellp Quote Phil https://www.hobartminiaturecarclub.com/ Email Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drw21 Posted July 3, 2016 Report Share Posted July 3, 2016 Hi Phil, get yourself a MB Slot controller. I have been driving slotties for 45 years with my thumb and found the MB 'handle' the best for a smooth drive once you get used to what each knob does and that will take a few hours but once you got that sorted you will not look back. The de-structions it comes with aren't flash but you'll get the hang of it just by trial and more trial. The power curve is so smooth and you can tame a powerful car while on the go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalbfellp Posted July 4, 2016 Report Share Posted July 4, 2016 I actually have a good controller,that I use. But always looking to see what else is around. This one has all the bells and whistles Quote Phil https://www.hobartminiaturecarclub.com/ Email Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syd Posted July 4, 2016 Report Share Posted July 4, 2016 How does the Scorpius compare to your one Phil? Quote West Australian Slot Car Racing Group web: www.waslotcarracinggroup.com email: syd.miller@outlook.com mob: Syd 0413 020 421 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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