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Phoenix Slot.it motor? (back from the ashes?)


Shaynus

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Hi all.

I went to race a Slot.it car for the 1st time, but it wasn't to be. It was as if the car had turbo lag, where the speed / acceleration deluvery out of corners, down straights was slow, slow, slow, FAST!

There was a faint electric burning smell, so I parked it for the evening. Had a look this morning and saw this:

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Now for a bit of context. The "car" (white kit) has been sitting around neglected for almost a year, so perhaps that explains the "patina " on the motor?

Before driving it, I did run it in (unusual for me these days!), in water, dried it out, lubed, etc, etc, same as I've done in the past with no problems.

My question is, can this motor be saved? Is it worth the effort? Can I just remove the small diode type board thingamajig on top?

Any thoughts, experiences, opinions are appreciated (publicly at least! :P)

Cheers,

Shaynus

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The motor can appears to have rust on it - incredible. How long did you say it has been sitting around?

Those wee choke/capacitor things can be removed - or just cut across it, to prevent it creating any circuit. You will soon know if it is the cause of the problem 

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Just a thought about the rust.... May be the right way.... May be the wrong way...This is my way of running in motors

Aprox 2 hrs in distilled water @ 5 volts

Blow out water then oil bearings

Aprox 30 min in alcohol @5 volts

Blow out alcohol then oil bearings

Im sure every body has there own way

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16 hours ago, SlotsNZ said:

The motor can appears to have rust on it - incredible. How long did you say it has been sitting around?

Those wee choke/capacitor things can be removed - or just cut across it, to prevent it creating any circuit. You will soon know if it is the cause of the problem 

I honestly can't remember, but I definitely know I laid the 1st layer of paint on it last summer... (somethings take time...:lol:)

I just checked, I got it well over a year ago...:blink:

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On 10/7/2023 at 8:12 AM, Shaynus said:

Hi all.

I went to race a Slot.it car for the 1st time, but it wasn't to be. It was as if the car had turbo lag, where the speed / acceleration deluvery out of corners, down straights was slow, slow, slow, FAST!

There was a faint electric burning smell, so I parked it for the evening. Had a look this morning and saw this:

20231007_123724.thumb.jpg.c7bb97de531dc0d5ec3df26d7deefec0.jpg20231007_123715.thumb.jpg.926e7dae9ce79114fe88e6f7a4e51dfc.jpg

Now for a bit of context. The "car" (white kit) has been sitting around neglected for almost a year, so perhaps that explains the "patina " on the motor?

Before driving it, I did run it in (unusual for me these days!), in water, dried it out, lubed, etc, etc, same as I've done in the past with no problems.

My question is, can this motor be saved? Is it worth the effort? Can I just remove the small diode type board thingamajig on top?

Any thoughts, experiences, opinions are appreciated (publicly at least! :P)

Cheers,

Shaynus

If there is rust in there, it could cause problems.

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On 10/8/2023 at 3:23 AM, Oldman said:

Just a thought about the rust.... May be the right way.... May be the wrong way...This is my way of running in motors

Aprox 2 hrs in distilled water @ 5 volts

Blow out water then oil bearings

Aprox 30 min in alcohol @5 volts

Blow out alcohol then oil bearings

Im sure every body has there own way

Of course, you can "bathe" your car in water and alcohol. But metals do not like water, especially iron. Because of the connection with water, oxides are created which spoil the connection.
You can, of course, continue to do this as long as it doesn't cause problems. But if it does, maybe you shouldn't keep "bathe" your car.

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Bit of an update - I removed the small capacitor board thingie. While the power delivery definitely improved a less severe lag / hesitation was still noticeable.

 While I am inclined to think the motor is a bit FUBAR, I'll try giving it another flush out and see what happens - nothing to lose!

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open it up and get a good look at the brushes and commutator especially where the wire attaches to the comm. A bad joint here can affect performance....

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SlotIt motors for some time now have been using 'crimped & spot welded' commi lugs.

These either work or don't work - they rarely fail.

What I'm thinking is that the commi slot has become full of brush dust and this causes a 'ring of fire' when the motor is running.

The only solution to this is to clean out the slots with a VERY fine scraper.  A thinned down hobby knife blade will work.

Good luck, but I am thinking that a 'round receptical' is waiting for this motor....:unsure:

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